Change? It will only change when the older generation of 'conservatives' dies off. Nothing will persuade them to face reality. Nothing. The last few decades of experience have taught them how to ignore what has happened and to make excuses. They are incapable of doing anything else.
The next generation, the post-conservatives because there is nothing left to conserve, will face more blatant voter fraud, under vastly worse conditions. All corners of Red America are potentially exposed to migration from the Blue dystopias, as well as the inundation from across the open borders. Contesting electoral fraud in the years ahead will risk civil upheaval within the urban areas of Red America itself.
I am an older conservative and I would go to the front line any day. When I did that in New Zealand; all that were with me were a few Maori and Christians. It was better than nothing , but the Police trampled all over us.
Well the Maori have guts, you have got to give them credit for that. Jacinda Ardern comes across as a very disturbed person, a female Justin Trudeau without the charm and with even less ability. Amazing that a society like New Zealand (once legendary for it soldiers and for the good order and quality of its administration) turned out to be as timid as it now is.
PS I am writing from Australia, where freedom died from universal apathy and indifference a while ago.
The passivity of the electorate over the normalisation of the postal voting scams etc is chilling. It sends an unmistakable message to the Democrats that they can get away with anything.
Baffling passivity it is! 😢 Deafening silence over what must have become the talk of the town for weeks & months forward. In a tad saner world, it calls for hastily being added.
Collective paralysis in the face of danger is astonishing. I'd love to know what a psychiatrist makes of it all.
It is baffling only in the fact that no one is acknowledging the problem. Accounting for it is easy: magical thinking comes naturally to us all. In the Third World, however, people break free from their ignorance and delusion and notice and, at least occasionally, do something like protest or comment.
In this case immersion in infotainment, the standard American diet and weed have turned everyone into zombies. It is puffer-fish toxosis on a scale that Papa Doc Duvalier never dreamed of. America is Nouveau Haiti, the hills throb with the sound of drums calling the gods and the zombies shuffle in the fields.
These are the same people who strapped diapers to their faces for two years and did not come to the defense of their neighbors and who stayed home from church. There you go.
💬 making dialectical arguments instead of rhetorical ones is going to pay increasingly sparse dividends over time
As if said dividends ever paid off the investment to begin with 😉 You can’t argue ppl out of their beliefs ← a grey-bearded cliché subject to kinda Lindy’s writ large 🤷 Rationality reasoning logic—whatever you like to call the thinking mind at work—is just not up to the task; it’s destined to consistently fail and abysmally at that.
Whence comes the paramount import of *quality* candidates, especially in the sense of their charismatic appeal. The joys of sweeping democratic franchise never ebb 🤸
~~
PS Yesterday’s aberrations however blatant are consistently morphing into today’s normal at the speed of science™. Perma-rigging, a real good one [example] 👌
You can't argue people out of their hormones, especially when they come out of a bottle.
The value of argument in politics is that it helps people refine their thinking so that they can perfect their rhetorical skills for persuading those who are persuadable.
Having said all this, dissenters need to school themselves in all necessary techniques. Workshops on formal logic and rhetoric, integrating a bit of neuroscience. Our kung fu must be powerful, simply to fortify our own people in their beliefs and win over the persuadable.
Great work Theophilus. Needed that one. Amazingly scary thing to me is how many lock down harder governors won. And the margins. The lady up in Maine won by 17. Two entirely incompatible groups of people living in this country now. Funny. I think back to the days of Tip O Neal and Reagan. They would yell and scream at each other. Then go have a beer. Same goals. Different routes to achieve. That America is dead as old Marley.
Somewheres vs Anywheres. Physicals vs Virtuals. The cultural divide so broad & deep no beer rivers can fill. Nor there’s a bridge to watch the water under from 😳
If the fraud you spoke of is true, then all the rest of your essay about Trump's personality, Oz's unelectibility, is moot. The ad hoc, mostly illegal electoral manipulations of mass registration, mass mail-in voting, broken vote adjudication, etc... make every other point useless.
Large numbers of people still just point at the "D" because it's still 1935 and if it weren't for that nice Mr Roosevelt, the bank would have foreclosed on grandad's farm by now.
It's been impossible to recover from the mythology of the '30s. It's impossible to get around people voting because they think they're on a knife's edge of collapse even as they vote FOR the party that keeps them on that knife's edge. It's impossible to get around the mythology that the government exists to keep the economy aloft and were it not for ceaseless intervention and redistribution, we would all be doomed.
They stole the last one, and they stole only little less of this one.
This isn't going to change until people feel enough pain.
Yes, obvious to the entire world . You would wonder why a New Zealander would care , but where you go we go.
The fact is that while the weakling woke States deliberately allow crooked machines to do the work for them ,USA is fucked.
Change? It will only change when the older generation of 'conservatives' dies off. Nothing will persuade them to face reality. Nothing. The last few decades of experience have taught them how to ignore what has happened and to make excuses. They are incapable of doing anything else.
The next generation, the post-conservatives because there is nothing left to conserve, will face more blatant voter fraud, under vastly worse conditions. All corners of Red America are potentially exposed to migration from the Blue dystopias, as well as the inundation from across the open borders. Contesting electoral fraud in the years ahead will risk civil upheaval within the urban areas of Red America itself.
I am an older conservative and I would go to the front line any day. When I did that in New Zealand; all that were with me were a few Maori and Christians. It was better than nothing , but the Police trampled all over us.
Well the Maori have guts, you have got to give them credit for that. Jacinda Ardern comes across as a very disturbed person, a female Justin Trudeau without the charm and with even less ability. Amazing that a society like New Zealand (once legendary for it soldiers and for the good order and quality of its administration) turned out to be as timid as it now is.
PS I am writing from Australia, where freedom died from universal apathy and indifference a while ago.
The passivity of the electorate over the normalisation of the postal voting scams etc is chilling. It sends an unmistakable message to the Democrats that they can get away with anything.
Baffling passivity it is! 😢 Deafening silence over what must have become the talk of the town for weeks & months forward. In a tad saner world, it calls for hastily being added.
Collective paralysis in the face of danger is astonishing. I'd love to know what a psychiatrist makes of it all.
It is baffling only in the fact that no one is acknowledging the problem. Accounting for it is easy: magical thinking comes naturally to us all. In the Third World, however, people break free from their ignorance and delusion and notice and, at least occasionally, do something like protest or comment.
In this case immersion in infotainment, the standard American diet and weed have turned everyone into zombies. It is puffer-fish toxosis on a scale that Papa Doc Duvalier never dreamed of. America is Nouveau Haiti, the hills throb with the sound of drums calling the gods and the zombies shuffle in the fields.
These are the same people who strapped diapers to their faces for two years and did not come to the defense of their neighbors and who stayed home from church. There you go.
💬 making dialectical arguments instead of rhetorical ones is going to pay increasingly sparse dividends over time
As if said dividends ever paid off the investment to begin with 😉 You can’t argue ppl out of their beliefs ← a grey-bearded cliché subject to kinda Lindy’s writ large 🤷 Rationality reasoning logic—whatever you like to call the thinking mind at work—is just not up to the task; it’s destined to consistently fail and abysmally at that.
Whence comes the paramount import of *quality* candidates, especially in the sense of their charismatic appeal. The joys of sweeping democratic franchise never ebb 🤸
~~
PS Yesterday’s aberrations however blatant are consistently morphing into today’s normal at the speed of science™. Perma-rigging, a real good one [example] 👌
You can't argue people out of their hormones, especially when they come out of a bottle.
The value of argument in politics is that it helps people refine their thinking so that they can perfect their rhetorical skills for persuading those who are persuadable.
Having said all this, dissenters need to school themselves in all necessary techniques. Workshops on formal logic and rhetoric, integrating a bit of neuroscience. Our kung fu must be powerful, simply to fortify our own people in their beliefs and win over the persuadable.
💬 when they come out of a bottle
Ooh how I *love* double entendres 😁
Agreed! though I prefer intellectual jiu-jitsu to kung fu (別誤會，我愛中國! 结束中共!!).
P.S. see my blog for the workshops you mentioned
Messaging from Republicans in this election was shit. Crime! Immigration! What, is this 1980?
Had they hammered on woke, trans and covid authoritarianism, they would have rolled with that red tsunami they seemed to think they were owed.
But they are all too god damn captured by phizer, moderna and the DoD, to show anything like being human. Not inspiring.
Since you prob'ly lost for alien voting Blue, immigration is a preatty important policy.
You must face it: frauds and (sadly) abortion torpedoed Red in purple States.
Great work Theophilus. Needed that one. Amazingly scary thing to me is how many lock down harder governors won. And the margins. The lady up in Maine won by 17. Two entirely incompatible groups of people living in this country now. Funny. I think back to the days of Tip O Neal and Reagan. They would yell and scream at each other. Then go have a beer. Same goals. Different routes to achieve. That America is dead as old Marley.
Somewheres vs Anywheres. Physicals vs Virtuals. The cultural divide so broad & deep no beer rivers can fill. Nor there’s a bridge to watch the water under from 😳
My compliments on “The cultural divide is so broad & deep no beer rivers can fill. Nor there’s a bridge to watch the water under from.” Truth.
DeSantis will run for president if he can. The allure of presidency is too strong.
However a lot can happen before elections of 2024. Elections might not matter by then
Absolutely splemdid and rational post. Thanks very much, it helped me get over the depression.
You would wonder why a New Zealander would care , but where you go we go.
The fact is that while the weakling woke States deliberately allow crooked machines to do the work for them ,USA is fucked.
If the fraud you spoke of is true, then all the rest of your essay about Trump's personality, Oz's unelectibility, is moot. The ad hoc, mostly illegal electoral manipulations of mass registration, mass mail-in voting, broken vote adjudication, etc... make every other point useless.
Large numbers of people still just point at the "D" because it's still 1935 and if it weren't for that nice Mr Roosevelt, the bank would have foreclosed on grandad's farm by now.
It's been impossible to recover from the mythology of the '30s. It's impossible to get around people voting because they think they're on a knife's edge of collapse even as they vote FOR the party that keeps them on that knife's edge. It's impossible to get around the mythology that the government exists to keep the economy aloft and were it not for ceaseless intervention and redistribution, we would all be doomed.