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Pope T-Bone XXL's avatar

I would only disagree on your position that "All men are created equal" is an absurd idea. We all come into the world naked and more or less start out from the same position of helplessness. I'm not sure of a better starting point to base the value of a human life on. All human lives have value that can be built on or destroyed based largely on the choices we make and to a far lesser degree the choices others make that directly affect us.

I think freedoms should be based on the amount of responsibility an individual wants to assume. Voting should be limited to those who could show a certain amount of responsibility in their lives. Perhaps property ownership or monogamous marriage could be indicators of your right to participate in elections. Receiving welfare of any kind should exclude a person from having any say in the process of governance. There will always be those who are content to live on the free grain Caesar provides but they should not have any part in any rule making process but all should be allowed a path to get off of the public dole and earn the right to vote.

A responsible homeowner should maintain the right against unreasonable search and seizure, an irresponsible tent dweller living on the public sidewalk should not.

All people, regardless of station in life should maintain the right to self defense unless they act irresponsibly with that right.

Those who seek to be leaders should be willing to forego the right to privacy, especially in regards to their finances.

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Some people like to imagine that "a culture is like a living organism" because they want the current state to end. And that provides the promise that it's going to end. Easy!

They'll say "all empires have fallen, that means they're like organisms that live and die". That's like saying a building is like an organism that lives and dies because eventually it breaks down. Except that's due to erosion and other things that happen to it. The building itself could stand virtually forever.

No, no history magic is going to solve things.

"The earlier, cyclical view which was traditionally held by the medieval Western man" "had understood time holistically"

Sorry, I can't keep reading when I see "cyclical" and "holistical". You know that time moves forward, don't lie to yourself. Or are you saying this moment is repeated endlessly, that maybe we're on the 1 millionth repetition right now? In that case you are crazy. I hope you are not crazy, in which case you know this is the first time you are reading this.

Saying "Western man" in the Middle Ages were a bunch of nuts who thought every moment they experienced repeated endlessly, is false. Especially since you're talking about the Middle Ages - they were hardcore Christian, and Christianity does NOT say the days are repeated over and over. It very clearly lays out a theory about a beginning and an end, with everything moving forward. And we all know that time moves forward. But explaining how it's not REALLY moving forward, that it's REALLY a circle somehow because look-at-the-seasons-they-repeat-like-a-wheel, has been a favorite pastime of hippies and likeminded ever since.

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