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Tony Ryan's avatar

"The peoples who existed closest to the proposed “state of nature” turned out to have constantly made war on and enslaved each other, engaging in all manner of bestial practices and cannibalism." This was most certainly not true of Australian Aborigines, Inuit, or Kung.

If my studies are correct the differentiating factor was hierarchism. All hierarchical cultures suffered from poverty, repression, incaceration, slavery, torture, and war. All flat power cultures had none of this.

A caution: I have studied this specifically for sixty years and lived within the consensus protocol cultures and, in fact, I am paid to record the laws thereof with a view to government recognition. Conversely, I regard European culture as the realm of savages.

But if you have read the histories and anthropology of the savages, then of course you would think otherwise.

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daiva's avatar

💬 what serves to best restrain the lawless proclivities of the citizenry of any nation

...is of course Lord Moulton’s obedience to the unenforceable, ie willingness to obey self-imposed law which in turn emanates from ↓↓

💬 moral and ethical traditions of our civilizational bases in Christianity and classical culture.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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