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Todd Campbell's avatar

Like Martyr Made said: 'Fascism is just the word used by freaks and degenerates when normal people realize that the Left won’t stop unless it’s forced to.'

The time is now.

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Paolo Giusti's avatar

If Trump screw this moment up, a moment were the Left is troon mass murderer, nigger throats sliter and normiecon assassinator, the West is over.

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R0501's avatar

Trump is cock-sucker who only sucks kosher sausage. He won't do a god-damn thing other than pass more anti-semitism laws. That motherfucker stood by in 2020 while American cities burned.

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Monad's avatar

Gentleman, you are a prophet.

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Pope T-Bone XXL's avatar

Kirk was murdered because he was a nice White man with a beautiful family and was articulate enough to win arguments with leftists. They don't want a debate. They don't want the best ideas to win out. They want a distopian society where they can rape children with impunity and tax the populace into oblivion to pay living expenses to foreign invaders.

They are a death cult and they need to be crushed.

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Boflys's avatar

The “nothing ever happens” crowd isn’t talking about leftist violence, we know that happens. We’re talking about the solution to all this bullshit the left and the deep state does to us. And as usual nothing will happen about Charlie Kirk’s death. Until we’re as dedicated to freedom as the left is progressivism, until we’re ready to go to jail and murder our opponents, nothing will happen. The government isn’t going to fix this, so neither is voting.

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The Causal Observer's avatar

You hit the nail on the head.

We can lament (and do so all the time) about how we should react to events like this, but as long as there is no real alternative (right wing) elite that makes a try for power, nothing will happen.

That elite is not going to happen spontaneously, it should come from a place that has money, but no political power. And these people are nowhere to be found. At this point of the game everybody who has money has bought in to the system (or is one of the powers behind the throne).

We should remember though. Always remember. So that when an opportunity arrives, we know how and are motivated to make things better.

Until that time: nothing ever happens.

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Saber 7's avatar

Hey 101st, I thought I’d wake up to news of reprisal killings. You know liberal/commie judges and DAs, liberal/commie MSM talking heads, liberal/commie politicians, but “no joy” this morning. Not one beat down or culling of a blue hair liberal/commie instigator interrupting a sorrowful public gathering, not a fookin one.

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Boflys's avatar

I think we’re in agreement but it seems like you’re telling me I’m wrong. Did I miss something?

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Saber 7's avatar

Oh I agree 100% with you. I am lamenting that fact that not a single fookin commie bastard got “dirt napped” last night. We are now being directed/lead to believe that this was, you guessed it, a CIA Op. Fancy that.

Scouts Out!

Saber 7

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Boflys's avatar

Roger that CSM!

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Saber 7's avatar

Saber 7 is the HHT Commander slot in a Cavalry Squadron. I am a Mustang. That was my first command, and I asked for the HHT even though I was selected to command the Ground RECON Troop. Early on in my career I understood that it’s the support that keeps the CAV Scouts alive. Started as PFC, got out with 0-5.

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Boflys's avatar

Yeah I started as a PV2 and retired as a CW3. Flew Blackhawks.

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Boflys's avatar

Huh. I was never Cav. But infantry and Aviation. We always called the CSM 07

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JasonT's avatar

This was no crossed line, this was a continuation of Democrat policy since the murder of Lincoln.

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Sean Valdrow's avatar

The wrath of the Saxon has been awakened.

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Tell's avatar
Sep 11Edited

As usual https://www.informationliberation.com/ is the place to go for the actual news.

Reality check: Charlie-boy supported mass immigration and opposed Trump when he first ran in 2016, then latched on to him. According to Charlie, "America is a concept" and has nothing to do with Whites. Bringing in tens of millions of Latinos and Blacks and others was just fine.

Then he switched when it was convenient. If you think he really switched. Traitors like Charlie are why Whites like Ira Zarutska are murdered.

Oh, but he was always a supporter of nationalism for Jews. He supported those who stepped into Palestinian people's homes and stole them: the home, the garden, the furniture, everything.

If you don't know that this was happening then your opinion on the matter is worthless.

Jews murdered Palestinians every single year, including shooting journalists and nurses, and Charlie-boy supported them, as Jews dominate U.S. media and Charlie-boy wanted money. Charlie supported the Gaza Holocaust. Does "neocicerantimes" support the rape and murder of innocent people? If yes, then blubbering out tears over an accomplice makes sense. If not, then maybe neocicerantimes should actually tell the truth about the psychopath. At least SOMEWHERE in this pathetic "article" that seeks to capitalize on the current media attention.

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R0501's avatar

I have always said it about him. Love or hate Nick Fuentes, he and the groypers called out Charlie Kirk for the grifter he was back in 2018. How did the kosher “marketplace of ideas” work out for ol’ Charlie Boy???

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NDDV's avatar

Bullshitter du jour

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Tell's avatar

You are? Supporting a grifter who switched back and forth suits you just fine since you obviously have no arguments. Aw, poor boy.

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Demeisen's avatar

People change their minds and evolve their beliefs. You can try to paint Kirk as an opportunist but it doesn't make sense.

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Tell's avatar

"Try to paint" LOL How idiotic. Quoting him and knowing more than you do is "try to paint". So he didn't say "staple a Green Card to their diplomas"? Yes, he did, you are just angry that I know about it.

In June this year he told people to shut up and blindly support Trump's illegal bombing of Iran and the Israelis bombing Iranian streets. People should "log off and read the Bible" instead of opposing the crime. He supported the murder of other people and then he got murdered. Americans just whine when what they support doing to others happens to someone in their own country.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

They key insight into the modern left is they thought Charlie Kirk was a dangerous right-wing ideologue. The same people thought something similar about Tucker Carlson. They are so far to the left Stalin would have seemed a bit too conservative. So imagine what they think of you.

That is where utopian thinking actually gets you. Stuck inside your head with your fantasies about how to organize society. Most of them believe the WEF-type slick video futuristic bad scifi nonsense about how glorious our carbon-free future will be. Then us knuckle-draggers keep appearing and anchoring them to reality, the antithesis of their fantasy ideas. To them we seem backward and lacking vision, not grounded and sensible. It is all emotion.

Alas, reality always exists no matter how deluded you are. And it is coming for them.

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Zeeb33's avatar

Stalin re-criminalized homosexuality and abortion. You say it tongue-in-cheek but he 100% would have been seen as too far right wing by today’s left wingers.

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Spaceman Spiff's avatar

Indeed. How times have changed. In the past many socialists were nationalist and patriotic too.

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Chris's avatar

Not sure the "left" did this. Firing from perfect sniper roost on a rooftop with a getaway plan smells more like Maidan style professional than leftist wacko.

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Demeisen's avatar

They're not all feckless dolts. There is a significant super intense antifa subset and a subculture of the gun scene that is ultra libertarian and pro queer.

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Chris's avatar

Libertarians are a live and let live group normally, I'd expect an ultra libertarian to be much less likely to assassinate a mild mannered guy like Charlie than most.

So a "super intense Antifa" is hoping to start a civil war? Trump won't let them riot anymore, so they start by shooting the most inoffensive right wing guy around? I don't see the rationale there. I would expect Charlie to be well down the list of right wing demons.

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Demeisen's avatar

If this is a sincere response, I suggest you read up on Antifa, like Andy Ngo's reporting. It's not a sound-bite answer, but I think they think to benefit from this.

Libertarian gen Z hedonists might not care, but some old-school guys like the bald dude they grabbed right away are shit-stirrers. I *deeply doubt* any sincere libertarian would target Charlie Kirk, but it's become so incoherent at this point it's hard to tell. Libertarianism is essentially nullified as a meaningful group of actors outside lone wolves, though the philosophy influences others.

I agree, any truly sincere opponent would have Charlie down low on the list. But thats the point. These are not sincere opponents. I think a decent shorthand is to refer to them as Demonic.

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Demeisen's avatar

Maidan is an interesting reference, from the first post. Perhaps you think there might be some other backers at work. I don't know, not enough actual knowledge.

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Chris's avatar

Maidan came to mind since It just seemed too neat and clean compared to anything in the USA since the last century. If you wanted to trigger a clampdown to make Trump appear fascist, this would be one way to do it. I was just raising it as a possibility, as there are folks who know how to stir up a mob and set their direction, and this was certainly a mob-stirring event.

I would put Charlie low on the list, but another substack, librarianofcelaeno, noted that Charlie looked to be "far right" from the point of view of the left. So, that point of mine was wrong.

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The Causal Observer's avatar

No, it just means he has an IQ above room temperature. 110-120 range probably.

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The Causal Observer's avatar

Such things are always possible. In this case though, I doubt it. The link you gave does not convince me, seems he jumps to conclusions based on unfounded assumptions.

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Chris's avatar

Did you read it? It’s a she, not a he.

What unfounded assumptions? That Charlie was shot in one side of the neck, and the bullet came out the other side? That it didn’t look like a wound from a large caliber bullet?

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The Causal Observer's avatar

Yes I read it. And indeed it is the assumptions on entry/exit wounds. I cannot see any evidence for that.

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OGRE's avatar

I think you're on to something here.

Consider this; what if the assassin was a foreign state actor, or Deep State actor? Would things really be any different?

Look at the people on the left who are championing Charlie Kirk's assassination. They support it, whether or not they were involved in any way.

Another thing to consider. If he were to have died in a car crash, would they be saying the same things, would they be happy about it? Would they post online about it, or is it because he was assassinated in broad daylight that they are feeling empowered?

The point I'm making is that those on the left are acting as if someone carried out their wishes here. It's not that Charlie Kirk died--that's not enough for these people--it's that he was killed by someone many on the left believe was acting on their behalf.

That says a lot.

This is a defining moment for many reasons.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

We don't hate them enough.

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Stonebatoni's avatar

You can add attempting to assassinate a bunch of republican politicans during a baseball game to the list. Despite being memory holed, this is probably the worst act of political violence against a group of elected people in our country’s history. Hopefully people will wake up. This isn’t the new normal, it has *been* normal and people were coddled into thinking it’s all just isolated incidents.

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Paul Charles Gregory's avatar

"It’s probably too much to ask that the Democratic Party itself be outlawed" -- But how about outlawing both parties, or all? My analysis is that it is the inherent divisiveness of parties, and the pressure they bring for people to think alike (groupthink) on totally disparate issues, that is the undoing of "liberal democracy". Last century and before there was no practical alternative to the aggregation of opinion by political parties, but there is now. I explain how this is possible at https://www.fuzzydemocracy.com/fzyenglish/usa.html . All questions answered and elaboration elsewhere at that website. Under "FuzzyDemocracy" no vote goes wasted, and you always vote for the best candidate you can find. You never vote for second best, or to keep someone else out. This is a rethink of electoral democracy, which is one check & balance among others. It does not rule the roost alone, but is essential.

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Joe Doe's avatar

Bingo. Sortitions not elections. All political parties are just ramps for psychos to get power and for the powers that can't be named to divide people across fake lines.

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Paul Charles Gregory's avatar

I am 100% opposed to sortition solutions, which deny most people, however engaged, any voice in governance, not even a small one. For my reasoning see https://www.character-and-ethics.com/critique-of-the-alternative-consensus.html

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Joe Doe's avatar

I don't care about your reasoning. Anyone believing that the current system denies less people than a system where legislators are randomly selected from the entire population is a true idiot.

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Me's avatar

"this kind of escalation was practically inevitable, given the increasingly unhinged rhetoric and behaviour coming from the Left"

As a non-American, this describes both sides of your politics. The American right is at least as irrational, hateful and emotionally incontinent as the American left.

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Halftrolling's avatar

Given our better understanding of genetics and how they shape ones political beliefs, there may be a liquidation in the future and it won’t be of the kulaks.

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Paul Charles Gregory's avatar

You, being an idiot, cannot even write a proper sentence.

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